it has finally happened after a year of not attending meetings and so forth.
my cousin emailed me and said that he heard i was an apostate.
Hey The Doc 58,
The best response I can think of right now is, "Apostate? No, I'd just stopped attending meetings because I was tired of all the gossip, back-biting, and out-right slander going on. So, now you've heard that I'm an apostate, huh. Sounds like things haven't changed among 'the friends'. Tell your source of such hurtful words that I appreciate their concern for my spiritual well-being, but I find a great deal of refreshment by avoiding such judgmental association."
B the X
not sure if anyone has pointed this out before, but behold the january 8th awake!, 2008, pages 26-27;.
are customs?.
customs are practices that apply to social life and are common to a particular place or class of people.
After doing extensive research, I've found several other things of a non-Judeo-Christian origin that are going on among the JWs. Let me briefly mention 3 things that I believe should be brought to the attention of the GB for immediate correction:
1) Apparently of Zoroastrian origin and evidently first practiced by pagan Sythians and Achaemenid Persians, this custom was also introduced to China as early as 375 BC. Throughout the ages, it has mostly been unpopular throughout the world. During the Dark Ages of Catholic domination of Europe, there was a brief appearance in the twelfth century. However, in the sixteenth century, this custom reappeared with tremendous popularity in Europe and later spreading to other parts of the world right down to today. The word we use in English is of Gaelic origin, pointing out an undeniable link to the Celts and druidic religion. Abraham never did this. Jesus never did this. Paul never did this. So JWs should not... wear trousers. This custom clearly accentuates one's endowment, or lack of endowment in the groinal region. It also draws attention to the area of the buttocks as they bounce and sway while walking. Hubba hubba. What righthearted person would not agree that pants are an invention of the Devil? So, brothers, take off those pants right now and put on a dress like Jesus wore !
2) Let's go back to 3,000 BC. What was something practiced by the ancient Egyptian priests who were cursed and condemned by Jehovah? What was something advocated by the pagan Greek Alexander the Great in in the 4th century BC? All this at a time that Jehovah instructed his people not to do it? Shaving is clearly also an invention of Satan the "clean-shaven" devil. Brothers, let it grow and let it flow.
3) I am no "Hebrew Scholar", but as a JW that doesn't prevent me from trying to convince everyone else that I am. After an exhaustive research for the last 5 minutes, I've found that the Hebrew language doesn't seem to contain the letter 'F'. Logically, it would stand to reason that any righthearted, clear thinking, God pleasing person would yearn for the return to the perfect, original, non-'F-ing' Hebrew language. 'F' is clearly from Satan, and so it would be improper that a Christian would use that letter... starting now. With the removal of such an unworthy letter, words such as *ornication and *uck would no longer exist. It would stand to reason that since such words no longer exist, such conduct would no longer exist.
Now I ask... who can argue with my logic. So, stop wearing pants, stop shaving, and stop using the letter 'f'. Many of the bOrganizations pagan-problems would be solved, and the spritual paradise would be even paradisier.
not sure if anyone has pointed this out before, but behold the january 8th awake!, 2008, pages 26-27;.
are customs?.
customs are practices that apply to social life and are common to a particular place or class of people.
Recently heard this story, probably a JW urban legend. Little boy comes home after one of his first few days in school and tells his JW mom that they had the most fun today. They all had cupcakes and sang a special song. Mom says, "That wasn't a birthday party was it?" The little boy says, "Well, I looked around and didn't see any heads on plates, so it couldn't have been a birthday party."
The whole point of the stand against celebrating birthdays is to make the JWs more different, less pagan, less evil, more holy, more persecuted, and way more superior than everyone else. Plus, it's about denying kids any fun. The thought being that the JW kids would hate the world for excluding them from acceptable 'Christian' fun activities. Actually, most JW kids grow up hating how being a JW took the fun out of being a kid. Yeah, going in FS on Saturday morning, then the family Watchtower Study in the afternoon was way more fun than sleeping in, watching cartoons, playing with your friends, and going to a birthday party.
Even my 'JW most of her life' grandma said, "I wish we could celebrate birthdays. I wish we were allowed to have some kind of fun."
ok, so this is a unsent letter to a quite understanding and slightly .
odd jw friend.
we have had conversations in the past about my "doubts".
Hey Inkling !
Very well written! Unfortunately, as the Bable says, you'd be "casting pearls before dogs returning to the mire..." or something like that. Have you tried bring up the pedophile cases? Print them out. Give them to him. Ask him how you're supposed to 'witless' to someone if they shove these in your face? There's nothing in the Reasoning book on why Jehovah's Witnesses protect criminal child sex abusers from police, courts, and secular justice.
I've found that bringing up doctrinal issues causes instant defensiveness and total deafness. However, whenever the published cases of JW protected pedophiles is put in front of them, they can't attack you, you didn't write it. They can't attack the writer, because it's true. Even the most entrenched JW goes into psycho fake babble mode. When they pause, as if they've made a point, just ask, "Is that the official FDS explanation, or are you speculating on this?"
Anyway, that's worked for me.
ha ha ha some of the guys in my office were talking about that every man should get an apostate exam, i swear they said apostate, i said nah not for me i know i would pass.
this post has gotten quite long so i decided to break it up into at least two sections.
i hope it doesnt come across as rambling.
i should start with a confession: it was my smurf that walked out of the kingdom hall in the early 80's.
Welcome Galileo !!
It's nice to have you... and your big juicy brain... here at JWD.
I'm looking forward to Part Two, and more of your insight on other topics.
Billy the X
click to see his pictures.
http://www.plentyoffish.com/member4736848.htm.
i live in the bloomfield hills area....i'm 21 and not a crazy drinker...i have 1-2 beers and i stop...don't need a dui.
Sign: Aries Height: 6' 0" (183 cm) Ethnicity: Caucasian with Blond hair Body Type: Average
I live in the Bloomfield hills area....I'm 21
still live with the folks
studying the Bible again with a brother from the Lake Orion congregation
I own a '88 Mercury Grand Marquis
I'm also a huge Simpsons fan
I have only had like 2 GFs
I'm not the most exciting guy to be around
I've compiled the above checklist so that the Elders in the Bloomfield Hills, Michigan area congregations will be able to find and counsel this brother against trying to pick up worldly hussies on the interwebs.
I'm confident that the Elders, by using this checklist along with the posted pictures, will be able to narrow their search down to about 25 or so young brothers. No doubt they will be able to finally catch and disfellowship this offender within the next 5 months.
well it's been about 2 to 3 months since i did a thread like this , so how have you all been doing in life?
relax , pull up a chair and your favorite cocktail , and tell me your problems - or at least how life is treating you.
we can make this a humorous thread or it can be serious , it's up to you.
Dr. Flipper,
Thanks for your wonderful advice ! You're the best pretend shrink I've seen in a very long time ! You've helped me way more than the pretend anti-depressants that I've been taking !
Now, can you fix me up with this live woman? http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/154011/1.ashx
Plus, I'm afraid I'm becoming a thread-killer... http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/154112/2819992/post.ashx#2819992
I'm I an evil thread-killer? Or was that a thread-mercy-killing?
Am I asking too many questions? Do you charge for pretend overtime? Are you planning to pretend retire soon?
Thanks in advance !
Billy
luke 4:16-19 jesus, went back to nazareth, where he had been brought up, and as usual he went to the meeting place on the sabbath.
when he stood up to read from the scriptures, he was given the book of isaiah the prophet.
he opened it and read,.
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WELCOME Cyril Athanasius !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is that your real, given name? If so, that's one awesome mouthful ! Are you Greek or Middle Eastern? Are you in Greece and speak English? If it's not your given name, is there a reason you chose that one?
Please post more, we'll love to hear from you !!!
EVERYONE PLEASE JOIN TOGETHER IN WELCOMING YET ANOTHER NEWBIE TO JWD !!!!!!!!!!!
the ones i know are either life long window cleaners with little education behind them or ex army /police /teacher types that are used to public talking and a bit of power , which ones did you find were the best elders ie kind and caring , i would go for the uneducated window cleaner /manual worker type by my experiance , in fact it was because the intelligent ones believed it was "the truth" that made me think well it must be true if he believes it
Come on, how about a vote for us 'apostate at heart' elders?
I'm planning to be an ex-elder ex-JW someday StAnn, does that count? I'm an ex-Bethelite, doesn't that count for something?
